SB/SE Burden Reduction Issue Committee Meeting Minutes
June 15-16, 2006
Face-to-Face Meeting
St. Paul, MN
Program Owner and Other Program Staff
- Bayder, Helene
- Davis, Judith
- Medlock, Teresa
Designated Federal Official
- Ramirez, Sandra — Brooklyn, NY, Manager
Committee Members Present (These attendees count
for quorum)
- Behnkendorf, Larry — Waterford, MI
- Bland, Sandra — Bemidji, MN
- Bly, Bill — Wayne, PA
- Cordeiro, Daryll — Mobile, AL
- Gursey, Gregory — Anchorage, AK
- Guthman, Howard — St. Paul, MN, Vice Chair
- Hafer, Donna — Burlington, KY
- Kasturi, Srinivasan — West Orange, NJ, Chair
- Reading, Sheri — Albuquerque, NM
Committee Members Absent
- Barry, Shaun — Franklin Square, NY
- Landauer, Steven — Davenport, IA
- O’Donnell, Marie — Riverwoods, IL
TAP Staff
- Coston, Bernie — Atlanta, GA, TAP Director
- Knispel, Marisa — Brooklyn, NY, Analyst
- Odom, Meredith — Brooklyn, NY, Secretary
Roll Call (quorum met)
Welcome
Kasturi welcomed the members and the IRS staff to
the meeting and thanked Guthmann for allowing us to hold the
meeting in his office. He asked if everyone had any revisions
to the agenda.
National Office Report
Coston announced that this year’s TAP’s Annual
Meeting will be held December 11 through 14th at the same
Hyatt hotel as last year. Coston would welcome any suggestions
from the members to make this year’s meeting more successful
than last year’s and stated that some changes have already
been established with this effort. Among these changes, the
time allotted to the breakouts of the various Area and Issue
Committee meetings has been increased and the workshops have
been designed to be more productive and valuable to the members.
Coston spoke about the success of the Town Hall meetings
that were held this year and said that Nina Olson was very
pleased with the outcome of each. He mentioned the last Town
Hall meeting, was held in Cincinnati and hosted by our member
Donna Hafer. He also spoke about the recent meeting in Cranston,
Rhode Island hosted by Area 1 member Hal Gadon. He said that
the latter had the largest number of attendees. Coston indicated
that the success of these Town Hall meetings is measured by
1) the outreach accomplished whereby community residents learn
of the TAP, and 2) by the quality of the issues these residents
and attendees bring to the table. Olson has expressed her
desire to continue these Town Hall meetings next year due
to their great success.
On recruitment, Coston announced that almost 800 applications
were received for TAP membership with only twenty-eight positions
open throughout the country. The recruitment process was a
success and 150 of these applicants will be interviewed in
the near future.
Discussion ensued on the number of hours that the TAP expects
members to dedicate to the program. A participant stated that
a member who has knowledge and experience of tax issues will
probably spend more hours of work in the TAP than the 500-hour
maximum, while one with less tax knowledge may spend less
than the 300-hour minimum. Another participant commented that
some members are ill-fitted to the Issue Committee assigned
to them as they did not understand the issue. Coston replied
that in the new TAP year the members will have the option
to change Issue Committees so that they can be more productive.
Guthmann is concerned about the coordination of issues whereby
some seem to duplicate or overlap. For example, he said, the
Area 5 Committee and the Area 3 are working on the issue of
Power of Attorney (POA). Coston stated that the TAP Analysts
should be researching the TAP database to avoid this overlapping/duplication
but sometimes is a matter of interpreting the issue differently.
What we need, Coston added, is more dialogue between analysts
and management.
Recent Proposals to the IRS and Responses Received
Kasturi spoke about the most recent response from the Office
of Taxpayer Burden Reduction (TBR) Acting Director Beth Tucker.
In a letter to Kasturi dated June 9, 2006, Tucker thanks the
TAP and the SBSE Burden Reduction Issue Committee for their
recommendation on the issue of the Office in the Home (OIH)
and the Form 8829, Expenses for the Business Use of Your Home.
In the letter, Tucker reiterates what Welsh told the Committee
in a previous meeting that the TBR will seek IRS Counsel’s
guidance to legislative key issues regarding the OIH initiative.
The administrative changes that our Committee suggests have
already been considered by the TBR team working on the project.
Kasturi also mentioned the previous response received from
Tucker regarding the Committee’s recommendation to the
TBR’s S-Election project. He asked Bayder to keep the
Committee informed on the progress of this project. He also
asked the members to review Tucker’s response and provide
comments and/or further suggestions they might wish to address
to the IRS by the next day (i.e. June 16th). Bayder added
that the two TBR Analysts involved in these projects (OIH
and S-Election), Welsh and Knights, would be willing to converse
with them by phone on any comments /suggestions they would
have.
Kasturi also requested comments from the members or any
further suggestions on the draft proposal for the Innocent
Spouse issue. Members had no additional comments and agreed
to send the proposal to Tucker as written. Knispel will send
the proposal with a cover letter addressed to Tucker.
Guthmann is concerned about the time it takes the IRS to
implement the recommendations that have been accepted. Kasturi
recognized the improvement in communication between the TAP
and the IRS as it is reflected on Tucker’s responses
to our Committee as she addresses our recommendations item
by item.
Update on Last Year’s Proposals
Bayder provided the Committee with an update of last year’s
recommendations on several issues:
Filing Extension Project
Last year’s Burden Reduction Issue Committee provided
input on the issue of making Form 4868, Application for Automatic
Extension of Time To File U.S. Individual Income Tax Return,
an automatic six-month extension. The Form was changed and
the extension period increased from four to six months this
past filing season.
Annualization of Form 941 and Creation of Form
944
To simplify the process and reduce taxpayer burden, the employment
tax return, Form 941, was simplified for those employers who
have up to $1,000 in annual employment tax withholding liability.
A new Form 944, Employers Annual Tax Return, was created for
those who qualify to file annually instead of quarterly. However,
Bayder said, the IRS has been experiencing some problems with
the processing of this new Form that have resulted in mailing
erroneous notices to taxpayers. Bayder added that action is
still pending on another related TAP recommendation to increase
the threshold for the filing of the Form 944 to $2,500. Davis
stated that the Social Security Administration and the IRS
do not agree with this proposal of raising the threshold in
order to increase compliance.
Davis also said that 20,000 employers who qualify to file
Form 944 filed Form 941 instead causing the IRS to address
notices to them in order to rectify the situation. She added
that research shows that about one million taxpayers are affected
by the current $1,000 limit and increasing the threshold to
$2,500 will increase the number of affected taxpayers substantially.
Rounding Off
The Office of Taxpayer Burden Reduction (TBR) is reconsidering
this issue for various reasons. A couple of reasons are that
while reducing the burden for some taxpayers, it would increase
it for others and it would also increase the IRS’ burden
in programming. The latter will result in the unnecessary
mailing of notices to taxpayers.
Collection Information Statements
All stakeholders’ suggestions received were considered
by the project team. Currently, the IRS is refining its software
to allow taxpayers to pre-calculate interest and penalty to
complete these statements.
Prioritization of SBSE Notices
Bayder indicated that the TAP’s W&I Notices Issue
Committee worked on this topic while the SBSE Burden Reduction
Issue Committee concentrated on the mail-out strategy.
Examination Appointment Letter
Last year’s Committee provided input on the notice the
taxpayer receives when called for an audit to make it clear
and concise. The IRS team working on this issue intended to
educate the taxpayer as to how the examination process works
and how to prepare for an examination. TAP made great recommendations
not only on this notice but on other literature sent to taxpayers
such as Publication 1, Your Rights as a Taxpayer. The changes
to Publication 3498, The Examination Process, have already
been made.
Issues for Future Meetings
Bayder briefed the members on some of the issues that will
be assigned to them in the future:
- Specialty Tax- employment tax and excise tax concerns
such as non-compliance and communication with those citizens
living abroad. The IRS unit working on international issues
will work with us.
- Changes to the Form W-4 (Withholding Program) and the
problems encountered in completing this Form.
Participation in Meetings
Ramirez facilitated a group discussion on enhancing member
participation in the Committee’s work. The discussion
covered topics such as difficulty of issues, knowledge and
expertise of the subcommittee members on the issue worked,
attendance, role of the subcommittee chair, times and length
of subcommittee meetings, standing subcommittees vs. rotating
subcommittees, etc. The members voted (5-3) to retain the
current process of creating subcommittees as new issues come
up and to allow members to participate in subcommittee activities
based on their interest/knowledge in the issue.
Participation and Outreach in the TAP’s Issue
Committee
Kasturi encouraged members to make a special effort to outreach
in their communities to capture broad public perspectives
on issues we are working. For example, Program Analyst Kathy
Welsh invited the Committee to solicit input on the Office
in the Home from the practitioners and the self-employed residents
of the members’ areas. Bland shared her experience on
polling TAP membership on free e-file to gain insight into
their concerns. Kasturi shared his experience on getting small
business input on Sub-S election process through a presentation
to SCORE, a volunteer advisory organization sponsored by the
Small Business Administration (SBA).
Electronic Installment Agreement (e-IA)
Teresa Medlock, a Collections Program Manager, is working
in conjunction with the Office of Taxpayer Burden Reduction
(TBR) on the Electronic Installment Agreement (EIA) that will
allow taxpayers to establish a payment agreement with the
IRS on the Internet. The EIA will reduce taxpayer burden by
reducing the use of paper agreements and make the process
easier and more convenient. At the same time it will also
be more efficient for tax practitioners and reduce the IRS
resources needed to monitor the program. The idea for the
EIA came about from the fact that in Fiscal Year 2005 alone,
the IRS processed 2.6 million installment agreements. The
program will be completed in 3 phases and is being tested
at a small-scale since May 1, 2006. Some modifications must
be made before its full release to the public.
Medlock explained the three phases the EIA must undergo and
provided a printed Power Point presentation to the attendees
to help visualize the different computer screens seen when
accessing the EIA (Attachment #1). She also explained that
the EIA team considered and incorporated some of the many
suggestions by external stakeholders such as the National
Association of Tax Professionals (NATP), National Association
of Enrolled Agents (NAEA) and the TAP among others.
Vice Chair Election
Howard Guthmann was nominated and elected by consensus.
Amended Tax Return Project 94X
Judy Davis reviewed the information she had given the members
in their May meeting on the background and the aim of this
Project (Attachment #2). She discussed the two options being
considered by the IRS project team to reduce taxpayer (both
employer and payer) burden in correcting previously filed
employment tax returns. Davis asked the Committee to review
these options and make suggestions.
On June 16th, the second day of the meeting, the members
worked with Davis and discussed the pros and cons of both
options. They suggested combining parts of the current two
options to create a simpler, easier way to amend an employment
tax return. The combination would then be tailored to each
applicable tax return (Form 941 , 943, 944 and 945) and allow
for a stand alone form that can be processed in a consistent
manner, reduce IRS notices to the taxpayer and allow the assessment
of interest and penalties to be consistent and efficient.
June 16, 2006
All members and IRS staff were present with the exception
of:
Program Staff
Medlock, Teresa
Committee Members Absent
- Barry, Shaun — Franklin Square, NY
- Bland, Sandra — Bemidji, MN
- Landauer, Steven — Davenport, IA
- O’Donnell, Marie — Riverwoods, IL
Taxpayer Burden Reduction (TBR) Referral Process
Analysts Tammy Cleveland and Kathy Welsh joined the meeting
via phone to make a presentation on the Referral Process available
to the public to submit burden reduction ideas to the Office
of Taxpayer Burden Reduction (OTBR). The Form 13285A, Reducing
Tax Burden on America’s Taxpayers, available on line
for submitting ideas may be mailed or emailed to this Office.
The purpose of this Process is to achieve: 1) simplification
of IRS forms and publications; 2) streamlining internal policies
and procedures; 3) promoting less burdensome ruling and laws;
and, 4) assisting in the development of a new, more accurate
burden measurement methodology. All this will reduce the burden
to taxpayers which is measured in time and money they spend
in complying with tax filing obligations. Some of the suggestions
referred in this Process come from IRS employees. All suggestions
are analyzed and discussed with the affected IRS organization
before initiating steps to implement. Staffing and cost of
implementation must also be analyzed. If suggestion requires
a legislative change, OTBR will write to the taxpayer suggesting
that they address their proposal to their congressman. However,
if there is potential for burden reduction in the suggestion,
there is a four-step process to follow. Cleveland supplied
the members with Talking Points (Attachment #3) that indicate
what these steps are and gives examples of TBR projects that
are underway. Cleveland also stated that the person who submits
the suggestion will receive confirmation of receipt and information
on the IRS’s decision as and when it is made.
The presentation created great interest and discussion from
all the members and many questions were asked. Coston, for
instance, indicated that the IRS has several suggestion programs
that are available to employees as well as the public. He
asked: Does the process cross-reference those other suggestion
programs to avoid redundancy? Cleveland replied that the Process
filters all suggestions before addressing them to the proper
IRS organization.
Taking the opportunity of Welsh’s presence on the
phone, the Committee asked for an update on their recommendation
on the issue of Office in the Home. She indicated that at
the moment, the IRS Counsel was considering the legislative
aspects of their proposal and will provide their response
to the Program in July.
TAP/SBSE Coalition
Beth Tucker, Office of Taxpayer Burden Reduction (TBR) Acting
Director, also joined the meeting via phone. She personally
thanked the Committee for their work on the proposals they
have already addressed to her office. She added that the TBR
is a valuable tool for the IRS Commissioner, and thus she
appreciates TAP’s and other stakeholders’ input
on their work. Tucker also promised to keep the Committee
members informed of progress on the recommendations the IRS
decides to accept for implementation.
Kasturi asked Tucker if the Program Owners could provide
the Committee with their internal data and research so that
the members better understand the basis of the issues and
consequently respond with a more analytical approach in developing
their suggestions.
Committee Report-Out on the 94X Project
Members discussed the amended tax return project and made
their suggestions to consolidate parts of the two options
being considered into one form that would be tailored to each
of the employment tax forms. Davis expressed her appreciation
for their valuable feedback. She agreed to work with the project
team to create a sample of the recommended form(s) to be used
for making adjustments to the employment forms and share it
with the Committee at the next month’s meeting. At that
time, any further suggestions will be considered before the
final product is presented to the Program.
Closing
Again, Kasturi and all the members thanked Guthmann for his
hosting this meeting. The members decided to cancel the originally
scheduled July 11th meeting and wait until our August 1st
meeting to discuss progress on the 94X Project that will be
presented again by Davis.
Action Items
Knispel: Send the Innocent Spouse proposal to Tucker.
Davis: Work with the Committee’s recommendation on 94X
Project and create a sample to present at the next month’s
meeting.
Next meeting: Tuesday, August 1st , 3:30 P.M. ET.
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