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Area 6 Committee Meeting Minutes
Taxpayer Advocacy Panel
Area 6 Teleconference
January 5, 2005
Attendance
- Clayton Agena
- Jim Banks
- Mario Burgos
- Jerry Fireman
- Maryann Motza, Vice Chair
- Joe Reder
- Sallie Richardson
- Tom Sherwood, Designated Federal Official
- Virginia Symonds, Chair
- Bruce Twomley
- Sherry Whah
- Gil Yanuck
Staff
- Judi Nicholas, Program Manager
- Dave Coffman, Analyst
- Mary Peterson O’Brien, Analyst
- Marla Ofilas, Note Taker
Opening
Tom opened the meeting by welcoming everyone.
Announcements/Review Agenda
Virginia reviewed telephone etiquette and TAP member expectations
that the members decided on during the annual meeting in November.
Marla took roll call and a quorum was met.
Face-to-Face Meeting Options
Judi explained that due to budget constraints, each TAP committee
will be funded for one face-to-face meeting. The committee
was asked to consider whether they wanted a meeting in February
as planned or at a later date.
Several members felt that the committee would benefit from
having a meeting early in the year and begin strategic planning.
Other members felt they would like a meeting where they could
work issues. There were a couple of members who stated they
would not be able to attend a meeting held in February.
Decision: A poll was taken and all agreed
to have their first face-to-face meeting in June. The committee
also agreed to decide on dates and locations via email. The
committee will meet for their next teleconference on February
2, 2005.
Action: Dave will send possible June dates via
e-mail to check member availability.
Outreach
Judi explained that a packet was provided to each Area 6 member
that included a power point presentation with talking points
to use during outreach events. Members were reminded that,
prior to any outreach activities that would incur a cost,
they must get approval at least 2 weeks in advance. In addition,
when a member participates in an outreach activity, they are
there to represent TAP and to speak only on behalf of TAP.
TAP members are to explain what TAP is about and what their
role is as a TAP member.
Members were asked to provide Dave with information when
they participate in any outreach activities. It is desirable
for members to complete a speaker report on TAPSpeak but any
method will suffice. This information will allow TAP to track
outreach events.
Bruce asked if there was a way of getting information on
outreach activities that other Area 6 members participated
in. The outreach information will be collected and shared
with all committee members.
Decision: All activities will be consolidated
into one document and shared with members monthly.
Action: The committee leadership team (Virginia,
Tom and Maryann) will decide the best method for sharing the
information.
Training TAP Members
Virginia asked the committee members if they wanted to discuss
options or make suggestions on available training for TAP
members.
Joe and Gil agreed that since there are time constraints,
everyone should email Virginia with their suggestions. The
suggestions could be discussed during the next meeting.
Decision: Everyone agreed to email Virginia
with their ideas and suggestions.
Action: Virginia will consolidate all suggestions
and the committee will discuss them during their next teleconference.
Virginia encouraged committee members to utilize TAPSpeak.
She also suggested that members contact Dave if they have
any problems.
Decision/Action:
- Dave will load the January minutes onto TAPSpeak
to test the member’s ability to access the site.
- Dave will assist Joe with accessing TAPSpeak
- Mary will mail out TAPSpeak training materials
to the members.
Issue Process for Area 6
The committee discussed committee workload, new referrals
and referrals carried over from last year. Virginia asked
the committee for input on how referrals and responsibilities
should be distributed between the panel members. In the past,
a referral was assigned to TAP members based on the state
where the referral originated. Virginia suggested that referrals
could be assigned alphabetically by name. Maryann also suggested
assigning issues by area of expertise or by interest in a
particular subject. Using the past process meant that some
members did not have issues to champion, which is a drawback
to assigning by state.
Jerry asked for clarification on referrals and issues. Instead
of working in subcommittees, each individual served as a champion
for a particular issue or issues. An issue would come to TAP,
initial research would be completed and the champion for that
issue would work along with the Area 6 analyst to review it
and understand it. While reviewing the issue, a member could
generate additional questions and have the analyst do additional
research. Once a member is satisfied with the completed research,
the issue and research would be presented to the committee.
The committee would come to a consensus about whether to continue
with the issue or drop it. The committee members would discuss
the issue and the research and provide the champion with input
or additional avenues of research. Once an issue is ready
for elevation to the Joint Committee, the member would work
with the analyst to create the recommendation using an available
template. The Area 6 chair serves on the Joint Committee and
will champion all Area 6 issues elevated to the Joint Committee.
It was stated that it is the member’s responsibility
is to work with the analyst to understand the issue and make
recommendations to the Area 6 members. If the issue is elevated,
the member will also work with the analyst to develop a written
recommendation. It was stated that all issues are addressed
and no one unilaterally decides if an issue should be dropped
or elevated.
The analyst is responsible for monitoring all other issues
that are being worked to ensure that the same issue is not
being worked elsewhere. TAP has an internal database that
was created to track issues. The database may also be researched
by title and/or topic. A monthly report is generated for the
Joint Committee that shows all active issues.
Decision: Dave will send out an email by
Friday with a description of all new issues to the committee
members. In addition, he will contact the members with multiple
existing issues who would prefer assistance. A final email
will be sent listing the issues that need a champion.
Action: Members will reply to Dave by January
14th indicating the issues they would like to work.
Joe asked Judi if there were any issues in the parking lot
(“parking lot” is a term used by the group put
issues on hold due to workload). There are no parking lot
issues.
Existing Issues:
Dave sent out reports with existing and new issues to the
committee for review.
The following issues were discussed by the committee:
- Change in Refund Notification
Gil explained that after reading the recommendations, he
didn’t find any of them acceptable. Gil felt that
he would like to be notified if there were changes to his
return and would be upset if he was not.
Decision: The committee decided to pursue
the issue. The issue will be included on the list that Dave
will email to the committee.
- Free File Misconceptions
The research on this issue does not directly relate to the
issue as described. Gil observed that users must pay attention
to the fine print prior to entering the site. Sherry feels
there is not enough information upfront to let users know
about possible fees. Mario stated that Area 5 created a
subcommittee to work this issue and he thought they had
elevated this issue. The staff believes the issue is related
to refund anticipation loans.
Decision: The committee decided to put
this issue aside until further research is completed. The
committee will discuss this issue during the next teleconference.
Action: Dave will contact the Area 5 Analyst
to discuss the research completed on this issue.
- Application of Refund – Statute Expired
Dave stated that additional research needed to be completed
regarding this issue. Judi agreed but expressed that there
are several code sections that address this issue and any
change related to this issue would be legislative and would
not be within TAP’s scope.
Decision: Dave will work with Sherry to
create a closing letter to inform the taxpayer of the committee’s
decision. In addition, the committee agreed to elevate this
issue to Nina Olson, National Taxpayer Advocate, for possible
inclusion in a future report to Congress.
- Notice When Changed Itemized Deduction
The committee discussed this issue and felt it was legislative.
Gil felt that the new IRS procedures should still be reviewed
to ensure the instructions are clear on this issue.
Decision: The committee agreed to review
the new IRS procedures to ensure they are clear.
- Electronic Forms
Mario stated that not all fillable forms can be electronically
filed. Ten percent of fillable forms cannot be electronically
filed. The research on this issue does not seem to provide
the information necessary to determine how to proceed.
Decision: Mario, Judi and Dave agreed to meet and
discuss clarification of this issue.
New Issues
Judi asked the committee to postpone discussion of the new
issues to the next teleconference. The new issues will be
included in the email, which will be sent by Dave, seeking
volunteers to champion the issues.
Decision/Action: The committee agreed and Dave
will include the new issues in his email to the members.
Committee Business
Virginia stated that there is no information to report from
the Joint Committee meeting. The majority of the meeting was
a discussion about the TAP budget and face-to-face meetings.
Virginia asked about direct deposit for travel reimbursements.
Judi noted that this method is being explored.
End of Meeting Assessment
Virginia asked if there were suggestions or comments regarding
this first meeting. Mario asked that discussions regarding
processes be limited to email and the time on conference calls
should be limited to working issues.
Action: It was suggested and agreed that Tom,
Virginia and Maryann could discuss it and determine how to
implement the suggestion.
Virginia also suggested that the teleconferences should
be limited to one hour.
Decision: All agreed.
Closing
Tom closed the meeting. The next Area 6 meeting will be on
Wednesday February 2, 2005.
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