Area 2 Committee Meeting Minutes
June 22-24, 2006
Face-to-Face Meeting
Philadelphia, PA
Day #1, June 22, 2006- IRS Federal
Building,
Conference Room A
Designated Federal Official
- Terry L. Mapp, Philadelphia Local Taxpayer Advocate (Absent
on 06/24/06)
Members Present
- Bill Bly, Wayne, PA
- Paul Brubaker, York, PA
- Emilio Cecchi, North Bethesda, MD, Vice-Chair
- Lee Congdon, Washington, DC (Absent on 06/22/06)
- Blanche Davis, Rehoboth Beach, DE
- Jo Ann Davis, Scott Depot, WV
- Robert Haines, Lebanon, NJ
- Sonny Kasturi, West Orange, NJ
- Paul McElroy, Pfafftown, NC, Chair
- Martin Romeril, Bethlehem, PA
- Lynwood Sinnamon, Arlington, VA
- James Tarpey, Sunset Beach, NC
- Elizabeth Warnecki, Ladson, SC
- Lillian (Beadsie) Woo, Durham, NC
Members Absent
- Bessie Moore, Mt. Laurel, NJ
Guests
- Linda M. Adams, Aspect Systems Administrator, Philadelphia,
PA
- Richard Furlong, Senior Stakeholder Liaison, Mid-Atlantic
Area
Staff Present
- Inez E. De Jesus, TAP Program Analyst & Note Taker
- John Fay, TAP Senior Program Analyst
- Nancy L. Ferree, TAP Program Manager
Welcome and Announcements
Chair Paul McElroy opened the meeting by welcoming everyone.
DFO Terry Mapp welcomed the TAP Area 2 Committee to the
City of Philadelphia where she is the Local Taxpayer Advocate,
and pointed out the display she had for all present on “Historical
Philadelphia” plus goodies representative of Philadelphia.
DFO Mapp also introduced James Jacob, Program Analyst, from
her staff that had been very instrumental in the coordination
of this meeting.
Mapp also introduced Richard Furlong, Senior Stakeholder
Liaison for the Mid-Atlantic States who stopped by to greet
the committee. Mr. Furlong has been instrumental by inviting
this committee to the annual “Working Together”
conference at Philadelphia University during the past few
years. The “Working Together” Conference is a
joint effort of public and private tax professionals; it promotes
the on-going relationship between the tax practitioner community
and two taxing agencies. Mr. Furlong shared that this committee
is welcomed to review the issues from IMRS (Issue Management
Resolution System).
The IMRS is similar to the SAMS, Systemic Advocacy Management
System.
Recruitment Updates
Nancy Ferree and John Fay jointly shared that the Recruitment
for new panel members has started. In total, 780 applications
were received. According to the cut-off score, there are 90
interviews scheduled for area 2; this is for members and alternate
vacancies. An email was sent out for soliciting volunteers
to participate with the upcoming interviews. The goal is to
complete the interview process by the end of July 2006.
Roll Call
Quorum of 9 was met; 13 members were present. Each member
introduced themselves.
Review/Approve Meeting Minutes- May 17, 2006
The minutes from the previous meeting were approved by consensus.
National Office Representative Comments-John Fay
Senior Analyst expressed TAP Director’s Bernie Coston
regrets at not being able to attend the area 2 face-to-face
meeting, and John Fay was glad to be here and see many familiar
faces.
John Fay also shared that regarding Recruitment this year
there has been a lot of interest shown from the public. Marketing
was very successful. There is a good balance and representation
of taxpayers at large. The goal is to have the selections
made so that the new members can attend the TAP annual meeting
in DC, December 11-14, 2006. Keep in mind that the selections
need to be approved by the Secretary of the Treasury.
Fay also shared that National Taxpayer Advocate Nina E.
Olson was very pleased with the Town Hall Meetings.
The TAP is addressing the issue of the actual hours volunteers
spend on TAP work. There has been a loss of membership due
to time commitments. This year emphasis will be made on time
commitment during the interview process. The reality is that
it is more like 500 hours than 300. The interview panelists
will be probing prospective applicants to be sure that they
can do it. Brubaker requested for an estimate of area 2 members
time they spend on TAP activities.
Jo Ann Davis suggested that the interviewees be made aware
that they will have to put money up front when they do traveling
for TAP, and then be reimbursed afterwards. All agreed that
this is a good point.
Joint Committee Briefing
No news at this time. The JC face-to-face meeting is scheduled
for next week in Denver, June 29 – July 1, 2006.
Regarding the Commissioners’ issues, Area 6 is taking
the lead on the confidentiality of taxpayer’s information
being shared. (Issue 3868)
The committee agreed to schedule their October & November
2006 teleconferences, and the dates are as follows:
- October 18, 2006 at 2:30 PM ET
- November 15, 2006 at 2:30 PM ET
The TAP Master Calendar will be updated accordingly.
TAP 06-003 Schedule D and D-1 Consolidation- Nancy
L. Ferree
Ferree informed everyone that this issue has already been
addressed. Sonny Kasturi stated that Area 2 had insisted on
elevating the issue even though there was a disagreement with
the answer to Question #5.
Action item for Ferree: Coordinate a teleconference
meeting between Bob Erickson, Senior Technical Advisor, Tax
Forms and Publications and the Area 2 subcommittee (Kasturi,
Brubaker, Sinnamon, and Warnecki).
Meeting Objectives
Chair McElroy reviewed the agenda, and it was accepted.
This led to the following discussions:
- Bill Bly addressed the Burden Reduction occurrence.
- Sonny Kasturi suggested that issues be moved quicker.
Review/Approve Proposals
- Issue 3702, Revise Pub 393, Household Employment-
Goal Statement: To clarify IRS instructions to state that
taxpayers need not file if they no longer have household
employees, and to clarify the terms “Household”
and “Business” used to identify who must file.
This issue was approved by the committee by consensus
and it will be sent to the Quality Review team after Beadsie
Woo makes some corrections.
- Issue 3736, Revise Electronic Federal Tax Payment
System (EFTPS) Registration Process
Goal Statement: To encourage individual taxpayer’s
participation in the EFTPS, the IRS needs to make registering
uncomplicated and allow immediate access just as is extended
to businesses. This issue was approved by the committee
by consensus.
Telephone/On Hold Wait Time (Issue 3685) Subject
Matter Expert-Linda Adams, Aspect System Administrator
Ms. Adams made a presentation before the committee on the
“Enterprise Queue” a new system that begins on
September 1, 2006. The Enterprise Queue will provide the platform
where telephone customers will be held in a central queue
until an agent becomes available. This will improve customer
service and speed up the answering of calls to the right agent
that can address the caller’s concerns. The caller will
be told how long they will have to wait.
Abandoned calls were discussed among panel members and Ms.
Adams. John Fay stated that studies have been done by contractors
in the past. What are the best business practices that IRS
may learn from?
Action/Follow-up: When testing of this
new system occurs, can TAP be involved?
Action item for Linda Adams: Provide the
panel with the Call Control Tables for PPS and 1040 if permissible.
The committee decided by consensus to place this issue
in Parking lot status for now and Lee Congdon volunteered
to monitor the implementation of the Enterprise Queue system.
The committee expressed their appreciation for the information
shared by Ms. Adams.
Review 2005 Annual Report- Lyn Sinnamon & Elizabeth
Warnecki
Lyn Sinnamon opened the discussion by asking the members how
many had read this report and/or have used it as an outreach
tool? The goal is to improve the 2006 document.
Sinnamon’s motion to the Joint Committee:
- TAP Director be given the opportunity to include the
names of the IRS Staff (19 support staff)
- TAP Issue- compile with Charter successes.
- More success stories should be included.
- Summary of financials not mentioned.
The area 2 committee provided support to Lyn Sinnamon by
consensus.
Action item for Lyn Sinnamon: Lyn will
draft a paragraph with the proposed recommendation that will
be forwarded to the Joint Committee. It will read as follows:
“The Area 2 Committee resolves that the TAP Chair
and the members of the Joint Committee prepare an annual report
that complies with the requirements of the TAP Charter that
reports on the efforts of the TAP volunteers, the IRS full
time equivalents assigned to TAP, and the IRS funds used by
TAP. The TAP Director would be encouraged to recognize the
IRS staff that supports TAP by name.
This report would go to the offices named in the TAP Charter
and be posted on TAPSpeak and www.improveirs.org.
The Joint Committee would then extract the appropriate material
from the report for a document that recognizes the volunteers,
the TAP IRS professionals, and the successes for the year
for a marketing document that could be used for outreach and
recruiting.”
Wrap Up of Day One
Brubaker spoke briefly about the Commissioner’s issues.
Questions arose about how many volunteers have left TAP.
Action item for John Fay: Fay will obtain
this information and share it with the area 2 committee.
Questions arose also on whether TAP was addressing those
who are not engaged.
Chair adjourned the meeting.
Day #2, June 23, 2006-IRS Federal
Building,
Conference Room A
Roll call- Confirm Quorum
Quorum of 9 was met; 14 members were present
Administrative
None
Screening Committee-Goals & Procedures- Emilio
Cecchi
Emilio Cecchi led the dialogue regarding the current procedures
conducted when new issues were received. He welcomed comments
and suggestions from all. The current screening committee
members are: Cecchi, Bly, J. Davis, Congdon, and Tarpey.
Highlights from the discussion were as follows:
- Is the screening committee needed? Can we expedite the
process? What can be done to accelerate the proposals to
the Joint Committee?
- The fact that area 2 had a high number of issues in parking
lot status for a while. All agreed that there should be
a periodic review of issues in this status. Action
item for Cecchi: will send out an email to all
with the prioritization of the issues in Parking lot status
– from high, medium and low.
- All agreed by consensus that preliminary research is
necessary before it is presented to the screening committee.
Inez is to continue to follow this guideline.
- All agreed by consensus that the screening committee
is needed and appreciation was expressed for the work done
so far.
- The screening committee is usually held a week before
the monthly call and as always, everyone is invited to participate
in addition to the current screening committee members.
- There were no new issues as of June 21, 2006.
- The screening committee is committed to ensure that the
issues accepted are in consistent with the TAP mission.
- The screening committee will continue to make recommendations
to the entire committee. Prioritization will be looked at
on a monthly basis.
- There will be a rotating of screening committee members
in order to give everyone the opportunity to participate.
For the record, the Quality Review team is composed of:
Sinnamon, J. Davis and Tarpey
Actual Screening Committee Meeting Led by Emilio
Cecchi
The following are “new issues” that were reviewed
and the entire committee agreed by consensus on the following
decision(s) to either drop it, make it active or place it
in parking lot status; this was an exercise conducted by the
screening committee whereby everyone participated with the
process:
- Issue 3915, Transmission of Supporting Details in
E-filed Returns – was returned for further review;
Status: Accepted - “Parking”
- Issue 3887, Disclosure, Who Claimed My Child?
Status: “Drop/Close it.”
- Issue 3925, Option for Access to Person on IRS Toll-Free
Lines, Status: “Active” – the following
members worked afterwards during this meeting in the creation
of a proposal: Brubaker, Congdon, B. Davis, Romeril, and
Sinnamon. This issue was also combined with Issues 3685
and 3941.
- Issue 3944, Tax Treatment of Securities Litigation
Settlement, Status: Accepted- “Parking”-
Action for Inez: research to see if there
had been any changes made to the tax law?
- Issue 3945, Distribution of Forms at TAC Offices,
Recommendation to drop this issue- Status: “New,”
return to the screening committee to review again; Kasturi
had suggested that a letter be written to the IRS since
there are some taxpayers who don’t have personal computers.
Kiosk may be a solution or have forms available at local
libraries. Kiosks are usually located where there are no
IRS offices.
- Issue 3946, Filing of Charitable Remainder Trusts,
Status: “New” return to the screening committee
to review again; R. Haines submitted this issue; the committee
discussed that the issue of combining Forms 5227 and 1041
was not to redesign the form but just to let the IRS know
why do they have 2 forms that are basically the same. Action
item for Ferree, and Cecchi – obtain Subject
Matter Expert via Sue Sottile.
- Issue 3948, Form 944, Change Threshold, Status:
“Parking”- this is a new procedure that requires
monitoring.
- Issue 3949, Eliminate Form 2553, Status: “Drop/Close
it”
- Issue 3951, Pubs 560 & 590 Instructions-Simple
IRA Rules, Status: Accept it, “Parking Lot”
- Issue 3952, E-file and Direct Deposit 2006- Good for
Seniors?- Status: “New” return to the screening
committee; Kasturi submitted this issue. Kasturi, Brubaker
and Sinnamon expressed an interest in this issue.
- Issue 3953, IRS Completing Simple Returns, Status:
“Parking Lot”
It was agreed that the New Parking Lot Issues will be
placed in the following priority order in which they will
be worked (this will be an ongoing activity as new issues
are received:
- Issue 3915
- Issue 3951
- Issue 3944
- Issue 3953
- Issue 3948
The following current issues in Parking Lot Status were
reviewed:
- Issue 3868-Object Sale of Private Tax Information
to Third Parties- Area 6 has the lead on this issue
and is in the process of preparing the Position Paper that
will be sent to the IRS Commissioner. Parking Lot Status.
- Issue 3228- E-filing Alternates & Interactive
Forms- New Active Issue- Warnecki and team will monitor-
(Kasturi, J. Davis, and Tarpey)
- Issue 3609- Review Processing of Form 4868- Drop
issue- Action item: Write letter to Citizen
from NC, inform individual that the IRS Commissioner has
recognized this matter and is taking action.
- Issue 3743- Revise Form W-9 and LLC Instructions
- New Active Issue- Subcommittee: Kasturi, Warnecki and
Tarpey-Action Item: Inez is to obtain contact
information.
- Issue 3739- Suggest Delayed Billing/Rewording of Notices-
New Active Issue- Subcommittee: Romeril, J. Davis &
Tarpey- Action Item for Inez: Find out
what notice is being referred to and if it is being addressed
by the Notice Committee, and get back to the subcommittee
with findings.
- Issue 3740- Offer-in-Compromise (OIC) Appeals Process-New
Active Issue-
Subcommittee: Haines, McElroy & Warnecki- Action
Item for Inez: Share information with the team
regarding Issue 2559, OIC Procedures that were being addressed
by Area 5.
Also, Haines will check on the specific regulations and
Warnecki will contact Steve Rue since he had submitted this
issue.
- Issue 3741- ACS Line Has Six Options- this issue
was combined with Issue 3925 & 3685.
- Issue 3742- Exceptions to Private Letter Ruling Fee
Increases- New Active Issue- Subcommittee: Kasturi,
Woo, Brubaker, B. Davis & Sinnamon- This issue will
be re-written.
How New Issues are Raised- Emilio Cecchi
Emilio Cecchi conducted an overview of how this process works.
Sub-committee Breakout(s)
The sub-committees worked together on their individual issues
and several proposals were drafted or re-worked.
Wrap Up of Day Two
The committee’s goal is to attempt to elevate proposals
to the IRS that may be added to the Joint Committee’s
face-to-face meeting in Denver next week.
The Chair expressed appreciation to the screening committee
for their hard work.
Chair adjourned the meeting.
Day #3, June 24, 2006-Holiday Inn
Sherman Conference Room
Roll call-Confirm Quorum
Quorum of 9 was met; 14 members were present.
Nancy L. Ferree, Acting DFO
Sub-committee Reports
In conclusion, this is what was agreed upon by consensus:
- Issue 3634, Free Tax Preparation for Self-employed Taxpayers-proposal
needs to be changed; Beadsie Woo will be making the adjustments
and sending it to Inez to share with all. This will be
an August agenda item. Action item for Beadsie
& Inez
- Issue 3702- Pub 393-Household Employment Filing- Approved
by the committee on June 22, 2006. *On 06/27/2006,
Inez forwarded this proposal to Barbara Toy for the JC Quality
Review Team.
- Issue 3736- Revise EFTPS Registration Procedure-Approved
by the committee on June 22, 2006. On 06/27/2006,
Inez forwarded this proposal to Barbara Toy for the JC Quality
Review Team.
- Issue 3747- Electronic Filing of 1099’s.- Approved
by the committee on June 23, 2006. On 06/27/2006,
Inez forwarded this proposal to Barbara Toy for the JC Quality
Review Team.
- Issue 3925-Option for Access to Person on IRS Toll-Free
Lines- this “new” issue became an “active
issue” and then an “elevated issue” during
this meeting.- Committee decided to combine this
issue with Issue 3685, On Hold Wait Time for All IRS Toll
Free Lines.-& Issue 3741- ACS Automated Collection System
Line has 6 Options- On 06/27/2006, Inez forwarded this proposal
to Barbara Toy for the JC Quality Review Team. The JC Quality
Review Team returned this proposal back to the committee.
The draft re-written proposal will be an agenda
item for the August call. Action item for Lee and
sub-committee: update the proposal based on the feedback
received.
Outreach Activities-Chair Paul McElroy
Chair McElroy reviewed the May 2006 outreach report and there
were a total of 7 events. Kasturi had 2, Lyn had 2, Bly had
2 and JoAnn continues to conduct outreach at “Open House”
events since she is a realtor. Chair emphasized that members
should seek the opportunities to speak about TAP to others.
The following conversation took place regarding outreach
creativity:
- Lyn Sinnamon suggested that members partner with the
stakeholders meetings in their States by visiting www.irs.gov.
The best way to know what is going on at the IRS is to get
on their mailing list.
- Sinnamon also shared that TAP Program Analyst Steve Berkey
is trying to find out why the Taxpayer Burden group did
not include TAP as an avenue to obtain support/feedback.
- Sonny Kasturi suggested that when you have an issue,
you should test it with your public and get their input
on your proposal.
- Send letters to your local Kiwanis and Rotary clubs.
- Partner with your local Seniors Centers.
- As a local resident, attempt to get an article written
about your TAP activities in the local newspapers.
Telephone Etiquette-Nancy L. Ferree
Ferree began by stating that not everyone speaks sometimes.
The following were briefly discussed:
- It was suggested that members attempt to sign in before
the call begins.
- It is important to have quorum in order to make decisions.
- If you are going to disconnect, let it be known ahead
of time.
- Identify yourself before speaking.
- Everyone should participate.
- At the end of the call, obtain feedback from all participants.
Create an opportunity for this. The chair will ask for any
additional comments.
- Use the mute button.
General Questions
Ferree asked who would be available to conduct telephone interviews
and the following members responded:
July 3, 2006 at 9:00 am ET, Romeril volunteered- Nancy will
be emailing information to him.
July 5, 2006 at 9; 00 am ET, Brubaker volunteered
July 6, at 9:00 am ET Romeril and at 10:30 am Beadsie Woo
July 7, was left open for now.
Wrap Up of Day Three
Members were reminded to fill out the meeting survey and to
submit their travel vouchers with the original hotel receipts
to either Nancy or Inez.
Chair adjourned the meeting and wished everyone a safe trip
back home. Chair expressed appreciation for the hard work
done by all the sub-committees.
Next Meeting via Teleconference: August 16, 2006
at 2:30 PM ET
Certification: These minutes were approved by consensus
by the TAP Area 2 Committee on August 16, 2006.
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